tv Doc Film - German Exile - Flight from Turkey Deutsche Welle January 28, 2018 8:15pm-9:00pm CET
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my name is john didn't die i lived in exile. i served time in prison and i was a marked man there i could i would die in prison or leave the country i chose axon . in the autumn of twenty sixteen i moved to buy land i'd left my country my home and my wife behind. on the last day of september twenty sixth the police stormed and searched our home in istanbul they took away my wife's passport when i was in prison with meat separated by a glass partition now we talk to each other on the internet.
the author orators have been holding my wife hostage for a year now they filed no charges against her their only crime was to be married to me. july fifteenth twenty sixteen was a turning point in our lives i was inspiring and watch the coverage of the turkish crew attempt on t.v. the crew was defeated with the help of the turkish people. it was clear that president had a one would use these events to strengthen his grip on power that's exactly what he did through state sponsored repression. my name is cut your dice i'm a journalist before the coup attempt i've been to turkey several times. afterward i
noticed that the people i interviewed were reluctant to speak up when i saw right away that the coup attempt would make the situation much worse for critics of the government in turkey. junjun dar was the editor in chief of the newspaper general yet now he's on the government's list of wanted criminals. i met john in barcelona where i was working on a story he told me at the time that he couldn't go back to turkey and was thinking about moving to berlin he arrived a few weeks later the number of turks seeking asylum in germany tripled after the coup attempt john is one of the most prominent people to have gone into exile he and i decided that we would give these new expatriates a voice and tell their stories. and. so this is a new wave of refugees i mean it's completely different than the sixty's you know the first couple. people. one of them is latif
a sociologist the t. first signed a petition that called for peace in turkey is kurdish region and it got her fired from her university job. she and i met at a demonstration in support of university lecturers who'd been arrested. now the two of us are meeting again in germany. latif arrived in december i was there when she met jan it was an emotional moment. how are you. and you. know you better now that you are here.
you had a meeting today yes we did how many questions you could create about forty and some people could make a decision when i believe you will have jobs at universities. have been home and just about all of them but some came here on a tourist visa and they're having serious problems with the immigration authorities . should but they're ok. i don't know. but it'll be even more difficult for those who want to come now they're not allowed to leave the country where you are just what i like german authorities she hoped i would have no problem or that these people can't leave turkey but you can at. least i did if it was a real adventure. why did i choose germany in fact it was germany. that chose me while i was in prison i wrote
a book and it was later published in germany and the weekly german paper did cite hired me to write a column writers associations offered me fellowships i want to warn summers invited to speak to distinguished audiences about the situation in turkey. in the one nine hundred thirty s. and korea welcomed german jewish intellectuals who had fled but nonces now ballin can return the favor. since the nine hundred sixty s. large numbers of types of emigrated to germany the majority of them now support and one. like me many people in germany are concerned about the way the turkish government has cracked down on its opponents. for example denice u j turkey correspondent for
the newspaper to events has been held without charge in jail for months. i notice that john is still a little nervous here in germany. he hesitates when i ask him why he doesn't use taxi cabs after many discussions with the drivers i decided to take or taxis and. driving is better for me and that's why i decided to get a car. driver was still so. much more secure. but in taxis aren't safe i can't believe that show i talked to a few taxi drivers. i did i would let chandan dar into my cab. and seamus there's failure is a traitor who was of the jungle that is there is
a traitor for me. finish and they're going to insult if he's innocent what's he doing in germany he's guilty well listen up why did he leave all of you that feel that he's a patriot he should stay in turkey and if i didn't go and why did he come to germany because he's been persecuted by a lot of folks not. many in germany's turkish community believe what they see and hear in the state controlled turkish media which claims that chandan dar is not an objective journalist but a dangerous enemy of the state. john has put together an online portal that allows turks living in exile to present critical reports about the situation in turkey. i set up this portal as soon as i got to germany it's called. we are free. but we are in solidarity. with our sister we were i was
a bit concerned that there are many germans in jail so how can we say that we are free. but in their words they hope you know hope that we are still the constable us. since john will be arrested if he travels to turkey he and i decided i would go a do research for him there. i applied for a journalist visa if i went to turkey without one i could end up in jail. the author of she spent months reviewing my application and didn't reply they seemed to be stalling. then we decided to work with some turkish colleagues they shot this video in ankara for us we're not going to identify these people because they could be arrested. there are now more reporters. in jail in turkey than in any other country. from germany we arranged
for our turkish crew to meet with john sculley go to trial against the two of them is still under way in turkey. adam girl and i were colleagues and chant the same fate because of our reporting. we posted a video showing turkish intelligence officers sending weapons and ammunition to islamist rebels who were fighting the assad regime in syria. adam's crime was that he published these allegations the turkish government says that the trucks contained humanitarian aid not weapons and president had no one made a very public threat. was. your point the journalist who published this story will pay a high price. and we did pay we quarter at one
committing a crime and were arrested the toaster's in jail for allegedly revealing state secrets adam and i were put in solitary confinement sounds right next to each other . but the constitutional court ruled that we had done nothing wrong and ordered our release but i had one doesn't carry. on a couple of big i don't accept the court's ruling. and i don't respect it was so good that. he went after my newspaper jim hood yet early one morning while i was out of the country ten journalists were arrested. six. of them finally how are you you know if you're the thing you do they do it and our colleagues in jail. they're doing fine they're optimistic but now the
authorities are using handcuffs we've never seen that before. where the way. they are the situation in the prisons is a lot different now than it used to be. yeah even on the prison grounds. it isn't clear that's how they treat our colleagues. it's happened to some of them . and that's all that. is keeping track of the days that our colleagues have spent in jail and one hundred fifty other journalists are being imprisoned just for telling the truth most newspapers toe the government line. they've been told to portray ourselves as terrorists. this headline says terrorists in germany support all of his enemies. there were always different factions within the turkish media. there were those who
supported the government and those who opposed it. i watch but we've never seen a case where journalists would be arrested for expressing political opinions. mystic pressure but now some journalists are even calling for some of our colleagues to be killed because of that you would have a rush. this is seven scott the wife of my friend mossad can't. go we used to enjoy meals together now we share our pain. seven she is on her way to visit me in prison. as one of turkey's best known caricaturists uses his arm to defend his country.
because princess human rights will light our way. get rid of the courts. get rid of the parliament and i can certainly rule wants a left. top with these downside is that simply ridiculous you know moral person would allow this they charge me and send me to jail for drawing cartoons that goes over the other. seven she's allowed to visit her husband once a week when they can talk by phone for an hour separated by a glass panel all turkish colleagues have been accompanying her we asked them whether our media coverage had had any effect on moussaka its trial or on prison visiting our seven inch says conditions in the prison have become a lot wes on our shores they have
a courtyard that's twenty metres square last week i saw something that made me sad . in the quarter. the prisoners used to be able to see the sky but now they've covered the yard. it was the only place where the prisoners could feel at least a little free and now it's gone. that made me very sad. as. the prison is located in the city of saline free about sixty kilometers west of istanbul the closer you get the more police you see we're not allowed to film here . this is the first time john has seen the video footage taken by all turkish t. yeah this is a more i think not gross sneery during our prison there was a ration there can you imagine how many people were allowed to come there and make
the most rationing over the first unity. was. that there was. no you're not allowed to go there. it's unbelievable. your friends were third thing there your friends and colleagues were in there when the prison you. must really touch and can you imagine that my lawyer you know coming there to visit me and now they're in with the. three of them and the other will to me in somalia three of them well. some say there are now more intellectuals in this prison than anywhere else in turkey it will be in the earlier that you know. yesterday was especially difficult
valentine's day is three days away it'll be the first time in years that we've spent that day of heart. on the prison phone wished me a happy valentine's day. it was very touching. and i'll never forget it. i'm on my way to visit a friend who came to berlin before i got here he's a doctor and film director he publicly diagnosed president out of one as having a narcissistic personality disorder he was charged with libel so he got on a plane and flew to. try. to shake off the plane of the last minute i got to my father's funeral and then went straight to the airport. when i got on the plane there were still dirt from the grave site on my shoes. we have left
behind the graves of our loved ones we've left behind a piece of our sounds and our lives as they once were. but a limb is our refuge but it's also our place of exile you can be happy here but also sad you can't be peace. but also dangerous. here in berlin mostafa opened a school for actors is making good use of his experience. the school is for young turkish people many of them dream of finding work in turkish television. while john watches his friend at work i try to interview some of the turkish students but they don't feel like talking they'd found out that we were coming and debated whether they should talk to us some said that if they appeared in the same reporter's job than it could have their careers.
they were going to. someone who says that she was in the course of job. once they get cut off. from the project they don't do these things these kinds of things together as a things. he's working on a new project. it's a film about the twenty thirteen taksim gazey park protests in istanbul showing how the turkish people rose up against repression. is the summer girls. make human being and how they had their hopes dashed.
or starve i was among those who tended to the wounded. me. to do. good work. we didn't leave our country our country left us. even. the book it's not a good feeling gendered just the idea you should get a new word for your country for half a century then. you fight for a better society and a better world. hurry real and then this country that you've worked so hard for journalists just passes you around to see it the sooner. we are clear. we are on our way to visit a man whose life is in danger not only in turkey but also here in germany where he
now lives in exile. or hunch and sorrows a mayor in turkey's kurdish region he believes he could be killed by islamic state supporters or by agents of the turkish secret police. she has defended the rights of turkey's kurdish minority. that's prompted threats from turkish nationalists here in germany. he never leaves his home without a bodyguard. i don't go out very often and when i do it's only for half an hour or an hour but i'm happy to be able to do that. so there is a. chance sam has been living in germany since twenty fifteen i want to find out what the situation was like in turkey before he left.
turkey my homeland has been wracked by p.k. k. terrorist attacks for thirty five years the p.k. k. demand autonomy for turkey's kurds last year forty four people were killed in an attack in istanbul and twenty thirteen the government and the p.k. had agreed on a ceasefire. hopes for a peaceful settlement was shattered in twenty fifteen after a suicide attack in the kurdish region. the assailants were said to be a member of islamic state but the p.k. k. blamed the turkish government the violence continued. the k.k.k. called for self-government in kurdish said his p.k. fighters took up positions on the streets of the turkish government viewed all this as a declaration of war. in
the kurdish cities that had declared autonomy were raised to the ground this video was shot by a turkish soldier government troops fired at civilians who were transporting the wounded under a white flag that people who were filming these events. this video was never shown on turkish state t.v. . or hunch ansal also treated the wounded even though he's a dentist by profession. and so we called ambulances sometimes they showed up sometimes not a good first of the two there was a news blackout at the time i thought what was it really like that is the new blow through of the battle you call an ambulance and they'd say we're not coming over they told us to bring the wounded to them well how do you do that if. people were bleeding out so you pick them up. and then you'd be arrested for trying to help.
you through. one thousand five hundred people were killed over three months in thirty cities and towns half a million people were forced to leave their homes. was one of them he was suspended from his job as man and was charged with supporting a terrorist organization leading members of his political party the h.t.t.p. were arrested. a decided that he had to leave the country there's no armed conflict here obviously but chancellors terribly lonely he left his wife and children behind in turkey. other turks in germany have been persecuted for speaking out. we need latif
accusing get a sociologist who is now living in frankfurt in turkey she supported efforts to end the fighting between the kurds and the government. that prompted a sharp attack from president eduard. i'm a bot. these fake intellectuals' accuse the government of carrying out a massacre. you intellectuals' are not educated you are evil white people are. the ones remarks had serious consequences for that she felt. she shows me some social media comments from the same day at the time she was working at a university in the town of dujail suddenly she was targeted by critics.
coverage of ed once comments spread like wildfire that there are no words that make that a regional t.v. station portrayed as a p.k. k. terrorist. but you know what's particularly appalling is that this sociologist who works at the university and dues just has actually put her name on a petition. with latifa lives in this dormitory room in frankfurt she feels safe here but she had to leave her home in turkey and quit her job she no longer has contact with her students and colleagues people she really liked it all disappeared in just two days.
well on wednesday evening my friend said it was too dangerous for me to stay and. they didn't want me to leave on the regional bus. they sized up the situation and then drove me to the nearby province of is met by. there i took a bus to istanbul. the next morning i found out that the authorities had issued a warrant for my arrest they searched my home and my office at the university they claimed that i disappeared even though they could have easily reached me by phone so they issued a warrant and then they passed the story along to the press. which that. latif i wasn't arrested but she was banned from working and from leaving the country. later she secretly made her way to frankfurt she describes the situation of the university before she left us to do some of my colleagues didn't actually
speak out against me but they just sort of disappeared from my life i was pretty upset about that. people on social media took me off their list of friends. people who had phoned me every day to chat he just stopped calling that really hurt. all a joke just gives you all and he no longer turns the authorities campaign against us had created an atmosphere of fear among my colleagues that they were afraid to talk to me or speak up we can't that it's a it's only vehicle and i think that this is the main reason why we're in the situation we are now a little sis in the igniting song and the international. gucci university in frankfurt has awarded le t. for a two year grant. it's a political gesture to show that germany will support exiles who've been oppressed
by or for a tarion regime. but turkey says the german government is harboring terrorists . turkey's domestic political troubles are now playing out in germany. in february twenty seventh teen turks in the western german city of omaha was a campaign in favor of a referendum that would give president head one more executive powers the turkish prime minister attended a big rally there jan didn't go because of the charges against him in turkey german reporters weren't exactly welcome there either. there are a lot means freedom everyone means freedom. nukes looking homeless and that's at the top of what we turks have recently noticed that some people are criticizing the turkish government without any justification all. lloyd we've invested so much in
germany some of us have lived here for decades we pay taxes and contribute to this country's prosperity that we feel betrayed. us when i was an officer and i don't know why but since the one nine hundred eighty s. the german media have betrayed turkish organizations in germany the turkish people and the turkey. nation in a negative light moment watching really in negative dogs as. most of the people at the rally believe everyone is doing a great job some told me that when they went back home to visit they found that the government had improved the health care system until to me read that. there are about three million turks in germany but a larger percentage of them vote for everyone's political party than to turks in turkey and that's been the case for years. that's why john took the referendum campaign very seriously. some people who
were opposed to the referendum held rallies higher means no turkish but there were just a few dozen people at this one some demonstrations were even cancelled due to low turnout to. these groups were supported by private funding while the prayer referendum groups were backed by president ed once a political party. many people here are willing to criticize the government on camera. but we found they feel with this private club level that it was your. party no should be your country that i don't want to dictatorship i live well here in syria full of the finances authority and see it on t.v. criticizing turkey we could get into trouble. it's not good. in the end it's a dictatorship now. but every day we went to turkey we'd probably be arrested.
yeah. it's difficult for john to find supporters in germany most turkish reporters don't want to work with him in the beginning i was dreaming of i was thinking of that i mean there are two thousand three thousand to drop his journeys into. and there would be no problem to find out people to work with but no oil the standard is not that easy because it's dangerous for them when they they feel threatened by the government because of that and i can understand that but it is of course in the beginning it was a bit disappointing for me. in january twenty seventeen turkish journalist heiko baghdad moved to berlin to work with jan he left his wife and children back in turkey. heiko has visited berlin often. so you will not done b.c.
if you were me this was just another trip. i do some work here and then go back home. that's what i plan to do religious leadership jobs i think the things in turkey will calm down soon and i can go back and live in peace. but i didn't book a return flight this time because i feel strange as. i go tells me that he is concerned about his family will be also ready to take away his wife's passport as they did with chan's wife. heiko bandits who used to have his own t.v. show and he was often a guest on top programs but not anymore show was cancelled he's half armenian and half greek an opposition journalist that puts him high on the list of people whom the turkish authorities consider dangerous. there are more and more friends against him.
it is less hard to plan the way even people i knew personally started making threats young people who live near me. and i'd watch them grow up to be threatened by young people it was really depressing. hikers family are now on their way to berlin is looking forward to their arrival there members of the. new little in. three of the. band that would better when they get near it will not look to john as if you and i can start looking around for an apartment and take care of all the other stuff because the end of organising is to have them here all of it always taking it which are such that the younger ones ok i'll talk to the older one but he understands the need to don't which i think he'll understand. i'll explain that we'll just have to
make the best of things and most of the time said he would and then what about school. start working on it i'm. imagining you wake up one morning and everything that you had is gone you know living in a foreign country where you don't speak the language that's what we've been forced to do we're far away from our homeland and our loved ones we have to live with threats we try to overcome our anger and our sorrow with our work. heiko was a welcome addition to our team. we got started right away. not make it has been on my list for i came here to take a break and have a normal life with you and that's what i ended up working for chandu and are the most wanted man in turkey or. maybe i did it because i'm a fighter i haven't been able to relax much so far but in the middle.
john shows me the threats that have been posted on social media. he says he pays little attention to the. county you react when someone points a gun at you you have two options you can either be afraid of everything or you can be afraid of nothing. i haven't been afraid of anything since someone tried to shoot me outside the courthouse in istanbul on line t.v. . at the official opening of the old
abuse internet platform earlier this year security was very tight. but i hope this platform will give us the opportunity to do our profession freely. but there were no police on hand just a few days later when a pro-government turkish journalist tried to break into john's office for an interview. we came to berlin to meet with chandan dar but he didn't want to talk to us either by phone or you know. this is our window. it's fifteen minutes to the city center it's called plays. you know.
so it's like every patient was. so no protection there own if something like. great has happened to our. office who will be the responsible. manama we can appropriate is going to be. resurgent. order to make. it what is a risk to shoot all the things. we were told that police cannot do the thing. is legal to show the target. despite the danger john will appear in public to support denise eugen the german turkish journalist now in jail in turkey. people a newscaster demanding his release john feels that he must speak out on eugenics
behalf and that those who oppose president ad one should stick together in germany and in turkey. thank you yeah there was a protesting campaign during our prison. in january i guess he came to live it to protest our earth will. stay there for a couple of hours. and the other day there was news about him and. then you know it's my turn to protest. in germany. more and more journalists in turkey are being jailed more people are being put on trial and we will continue to write about my son to speak out to people in our homeland because so many there cannot. on the evening of the referendum i do one appeared on the balcony of his palace and he looked more worried than we did on
april sixteenth nearly half the voters said no to giving him more power despite the crackdown on his opponents and all the manipulation. of that point we started to smile. does john consider the referendum result a victory for the opposition i feel victorious really yeah i mean. at least we saw that the people is behind us i mean we got together with them. which is such. the results was indeed close but the opposition still lost. many turks in germany celebrated the result. president add one won by a wider margin here than he did in turkey. i did some research on the german results only half of the turkish voters registered in germany took part in the
referendum but four hundred thousand voted yes and by so doing we can democracy in turkey. everyone intended to divide the turkish german community and to intimidate referendum opponents and that's just what. and there's a huge divide actually has its ruling isn't because you're either for or against conscripts lago there's no in between missions neither side wants to have anything to do with the other kind. i'm quite concerned by the fact that many turkish germans feel closer to president ed one than they did to chancellor america how do we get people to take democracy and freedom of speech more seriously. that's a decisive issue for germany for turkey for europe and for all of us the turkish exiles aren't going to win this fight by themselves. if european people
nature t. care about that lot is going on in turkey. they will increase the war there is going to be less so much more if it g.'s inserts here and also turkish people will become refugees soon. people who are in neutral need to act against these. latifa mustafa heiko me and the others are exiles from a country where democracy is dying. again in. syria
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